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Basic Information

Type Private
Geographical Reach Regional
Religious Affiliation Catholic
Location Rockville Centre, NY
Population 8,500,000
Website http://www.molloy.edu/
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Weather

Comfortable Days 110 (71%)
Sunshine Hours 2,620 (53%)
Days Without Precipitation 245 (47%)

Demographics

Total Undergraduates 2,835
Men / Women 28% / 72%
From State 96%
From Region 2%
Athletes 14.9%

Racial/Ethnic

White 41%
Hispanic 28%
Black 11%
Asian 9%
Mixed 3%
Native American 1%
International 1%

Men in the Entering Class

Men
0% 10% 20% 30% 40% 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 2021 2022 2023 2024 2011 Men: 33.3% 33.3% 2012 Men: 32.3% 32.3% 2013 Men: 32.9% 32.9% 2014 Men: 27.6% 27.6% 2015 Men: 29.3% 29.3% 2016 Men: 34.9% 34.9% 2017 Men: 27.8% 27.8% 2018 Men: 32.9% 32.9% 2019 Men: 31.7% 31.7% 2020 Men: 32.1% 32.1% 2021 Men: 27.5% 27.5% 2022 Men: 31.2% 31.2% 2023 Men: 26.6% 26.6% 2024 Men: 29.2% 29.2%

Entering Class by Race & Ethnicity

Native Asian Black Hispanic White International
0% 20% 40% 60% 80% 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 2021 2022 2023 2024 2011 Native: 0.0% 0.0% 2012 Native: 0.4% 0.4% 2013 Native: 0.3% 0.3% 2014 Native: 1.0% 1.0% 2015 Native: 0.5% 0.5% 2016 Native: 0.3% 0.3% 2017 Native: 1.0% 1.0% 2018 Native: 0.7% 0.7% 2019 Native: 0.8% 0.8% 2020 Native: 0.4% 0.4% 2021 Native: 1.9% 1.9% 2022 Native: 0.9% 0.9% 2023 Native: 0.6% 0.6% 2024 Native: 0.3% 0.3% 2011 Asian: 6.2% 6.2% 2012 Asian: 5.9% 5.9% 2013 Asian: 8.1% 8.1% 2014 Asian: 3.6% 3.6% 2015 Asian: 8.2% 8.2% 2016 Asian: 8.3% 8.3% 2017 Asian: 6.3% 6.3% 2018 Asian: 6.9% 6.9% 2019 Asian: 7.3% 7.3% 2020 Asian: 6.5% 6.5% 2021 Asian: 5.9% 5.9% 2022 Asian: 9.1% 9.1% 2023 Asian: 6.5% 6.5% 2024 Asian: 8.3% 8.3% 2011 Black: 8.8% 8.8% 2012 Black: 14.1% 14.1% 2013 Black: 10.0% 10.0% 2014 Black: 10.9% 10.9% 2015 Black: 7.0% 7.0% 2016 Black: 9.3% 9.3% 2017 Black: 9.6% 9.6% 2018 Black: 8.7% 8.7% 2019 Black: 9.9% 9.9% 2020 Black: 6.1% 6.1% 2021 Black: 8.4% 8.4% 2022 Black: 9.3% 9.3% 2023 Black: 7.1% 7.1% 2024 Black: 7.1% 7.1% 2011 Hispanic: 13.1% 13.1% 2012 Hispanic: 14.9% 14.9% 2013 Hispanic: 13.2% 13.2% 2014 Hispanic: 12.7% 12.7% 2015 Hispanic: 15.2% 15.2% 2016 Hispanic: 10.6% 10.6% 2017 Hispanic: 13.6% 13.6% 2018 Hispanic: 15.6% 15.6% 2019 Hispanic: 16.6% 16.6% 2020 Hispanic: 17.3% 17.3% 2021 Hispanic: 17.8% 17.8% 2022 Hispanic: 17.4% 17.4% 2023 Hispanic: 16.3% 16.3% 2024 Hispanic: 22.6% 22.6% 2011 White: 70.8% 70.8% 2012 White: 63.9% 63.9% 2013 White: 66.5% 66.5% 2014 White: 69.0% 69.0% 2015 White: 65.0% 65.0% 2016 White: 70.0% 70.0% 2017 White: 67.2% 67.2% 2018 White: 66.1% 66.1% 2019 White: 61.0% 61.0% 2020 White: 66.9% 66.9% 2021 White: 61.9% 61.9% 2022 White: 60.1% 60.1% 2023 White: 64.7% 64.7% 2024 White: 57.3% 57.3% 2011 International: 1.1% 1.1% 2012 International: 0.0% 0.0% 2013 International: 0.3% 0.3% 2014 International: 0.3% 0.3% 2015 International: 0.0% 0.0% 2016 International: 0.0% 0.0% 2017 International: 0.3% 0.3% 2018 International: 0.0% 0.0% 2019 International: 0.0% 0.0% 2020 International: 0.0% 0.0% 2021 International: 0.4% 0.4% 2022 International: 0.4% 0.4% 2023 International: 0.6% 0.6% 2024 International: 0.2% 0.2%

Share of the full-time first-time degree-seeking cohort. Groups IPEDS reports separately — two or more races, and race unknown — are left out, so the lines don't sum to 100%.

Enrolled Undergraduates by Race & Ethnicity

Native Asian Black Hispanic White International
0% 20% 40% 60% 80% 2020 2021 2022 2023 2024 2025 2020 Native: 0.4% 0.4% 2021 Native: 0.5% 0.5% 2022 Native: 0.4% 0.4% 2023 Native: 0.4% 0.4% 2024 Native: 0.4% 0.4% 2025 Native: 0.6% 0.6% 2020 Asian: 7.7% 7.7% 2021 Asian: 7.6% 7.6% 2022 Asian: 8.4% 8.4% 2023 Asian: 9.1% 9.1% 2024 Asian: 9.5% 9.5% 2025 Asian: 9.1% 9.1% 2020 Black: 8.5% 8.5% 2021 Black: 8.7% 8.7% 2022 Black: 8.7% 8.7% 2023 Black: 9.5% 9.5% 2024 Black: 10.8% 10.8% 2025 Black: 11.4% 11.4% 2020 Hispanic: 19.2% 19.2% 2021 Hispanic: 20.3% 20.3% 2022 Hispanic: 22.8% 22.8% 2023 Hispanic: 24.9% 24.9% 2024 Hispanic: 26.6% 26.6% 2025 Hispanic: 27.9% 27.9% 2020 White: 59.9% 59.9% 2021 White: 58.0% 58.0% 2022 White: 54.8% 54.8% 2023 White: 50.7% 50.7% 2024 White: 45.9% 45.9% 2025 White: 41.2% 41.2% 2020 International: 0.6% 0.6% 2021 International: 0.6% 0.6% 2022 International: 0.6% 0.6% 2023 International: 1.0% 1.0% 2024 International: 1.0% 1.0% 2025 International: 1.0% 1.0%

Share of all full-time degree-seeking undergraduates, not just the entering class. Same excluded groups as above.

IPEDS Admissions (2011–2024), Graduation Rates (2011–2024) and 12-month Enrollment (2020–2025) surveys. Years a college didn't file leave a gap in the line.

Schools & Majors

⇅ Trends Degrees Male/Female Intl Earnings ROI Employment
Molloy College 717 25% / 75% 1% $83,067 88 97%
Computer Science 3 — 67% / 33% 0% $93,977 95 —
Information Science 2 — 100% / 0% 0% $84,701 89 —
Mathematics 2 +1 50% / 50% 0% $75,377 82 —
Biology 26 +1 35% / 65% 0% $43,787 13 94%
Ecology 2 — 50% / 50% 0% $44,843 15 —
Health Sciences 13 — 23% / 77% 0% $72,032 78 —
Nuclear Medicine Technology 10 — 20% / 80% 0% $100,097 97 100%
Nursing 379 — 12% / 88% 1% $103,734 98 97%
Nursing Administration — — — — $103,734 98 97%
Speech-Language Pathology 11 — 0% / 100% 0% $64,603 67 93%
Accounting 17 — 65% / 35% 0% $85,293 90 95%
Business Administration 28 — 57% / 43% 4% $69,291 75 100%
Business Studies 2 +1 50% / 50% 0% $74,816 82 —
Finance 13 — 100% / 0% 0% $86,895 91 —
Managerial Economics 3 — 0% / 100% 0% $83,002 88 —
Marketing 4 — 50% / 50% 0% $56,069 47 100%
Communication 9 — 67% / 33% 0% $57,958 52 92%
English 3 — 33% / 67% 0% $49,835 28 —
History 5 — 80% / 20% 0% $53,278 38 —
Liberal Arts 29 — 34% / 66% 3% $64,154 66 100%
Media Studies 4 — 100% / 0% 0% $57,958 52 92%
Philosophy — +1 — — $53,661 40 —
Political Science 3 — 33% / 67% 0% $60,728 59 —
Psychology 22 — 14% / 86% 0% $47,193 21 93%
Religious Studies — — — — $55,928 46 —
Social Work 6 — 17% / 83% 0% $56,971 49 96%
Sociology — — — — $55,333 44 —
Education of Culturally Different Learners 1 — 0% / 100% 0% $54,967 43 —
Elementary Special Education 7 — 43% / 57% 0% $54,967 43 100%
Secondary Education 8 — 50% / 50% 0% $48,611 24 100%
Special Education 34 — 32% / 68% 0% $54,967 43 100%
Teacher Education 3 — 0% / 100% 0% $48,611 24 100%
Teaching English as a Second Language 5 — 20% / 80% 0% $56,167 47 —
Art Education 2 — 0% / 100% 0% $52,919 37 —
Music 1 — 100% / 0% 0% — — —
Music Education 2 — 0% / 100% 0% — — —
Music Therapy 8 — 38% / 62% 12% $55,322 44 —
Studio Art 6 — 17% / 83% 17% $38,276 7 —
Theater 24 — 25% / 75% 0% $31,444 3 100%
Criminal Justice 20 — 40% / 60% 0% $56,272 47 92%

Financial

Tuition & Fees $42,574
ROI Percentile 88th

Retention & Graduation

Full-Time Retention 85%
4-Year Graduation Rate 47%
6-Year Graduation Rate 70%
Transfer-Out Rate 0%

Six-Year Graduation Rate

Graduated
0% 20% 40% 60% 80% 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 2021 2022 2023 2024 2011 Graduated: 65.0% 65.0% 2012 Graduated: 62.1% 62.1% 2013 Graduated: 66.2% 66.2% 2014 Graduated: 69.7% 69.7% 2015 Graduated: 71.3% 71.3% 2016 Graduated: 76.0% 76.0% 2017 Graduated: 72.0% 72.0% 2018 Graduated: 75.2% 75.2% 2019 Graduated: 73.9% 73.9% 2020 Graduated: 72.9% 72.9% 2021 Graduated: 70.1% 70.1% 2022 Graduated: 69.2% 69.2% 2023 Graduated: 71.8% 71.8% 2024 Graduated: 69.9% 69.9%

Students finishing within 150% of normal time. Each year labels the cohort that entered six years earlier — 2024 tracks the class that started in 2018.

Six-Year Graduation Rate by Gender

Men Women
0% 25% 50% 75% 100% 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 2021 2022 2023 2024 2011 Men: 59.5% 59.5% 2012 Men: 56.2% 56.2% 2013 Men: 58.0% 58.0% 2014 Men: 53.3% 53.3% 2015 Men: 62.6% 62.6% 2016 Men: 70.8% 70.8% 2017 Men: 58.6% 58.6% 2018 Men: 76.6% 76.6% 2019 Men: 67.7% 67.7% 2020 Men: 64.7% 64.7% 2021 Men: 65.2% 65.2% 2022 Men: 68.2% 68.2% 2023 Men: 60.3% 60.3% 2024 Men: 62.1% 62.1% 2011 Women: 67.4% 67.4% 2012 Women: 64.3% 64.3% 2013 Women: 68.8% 68.8% 2014 Women: 75.7% 75.7% 2015 Women: 74.3% 74.3% 2016 Women: 78.6% 78.6% 2017 Women: 78.7% 78.7% 2018 Women: 74.6% 74.6% 2019 Women: 77.0% 77.0% 2020 Women: 76.0% 76.0% 2021 Women: 72.1% 72.1% 2022 Women: 69.8% 69.8% 2023 Women: 76.2% 76.2% 2024 Women: 73.8% 73.8%

IPEDS reports the cohort as men and women only.

Six-Year Graduation Rate by Race & Ethnicity

Asian Black Hispanic White
0% 25% 50% 75% 100% 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 2021 2022 2023 2024 2011 Asian: 88.2% 88.2% 2012 Asian: 87.5% 87.5% 2013 Asian: 76.7% 76.7% 2014 Asian: 71.4% 71.4% 2015 Asian: 70.6% 70.6% 2016 Asian: 75.0% 75.0% 2017 Asian: 80.0% 80.0% 2018 Asian: 74.2% 74.2% 2019 Asian: 72.2% 72.2% 2020 Asian: 68.8% 68.8% 2021 Asian: 84.4% 84.4% 2022 Asian: 76.5% 76.5% 2023 Asian: 66.7% 66.7% 2024 Asian: 69.4% 69.4% 2011 Black: 50.0% 50.0% 2012 Black: 39.5% 39.5% 2013 Black: 45.9% 45.9% 2014 Black: 55.8% 55.8% 2015 Black: 55.2% 55.2% 2016 Black: 52.8% 52.8% 2017 Black: 50.0% 50.0% 2018 Black: 69.2% 69.2% 2019 Black: 65.3% 65.3% 2020 Black: 73.3% 73.3% 2021 Black: 44.4% 44.4% 2022 Black: 44.2% 44.2% 2023 Black: 63.9% 63.9% 2024 Black: 50.0% 50.0% 2011 Hispanic: 44.4% 44.4% 2012 Hispanic: 60.0% 60.0% 2013 Hispanic: 55.1% 55.1% 2014 Hispanic: 58.0% 58.0% 2015 Hispanic: 71.4% 71.4% 2016 Hispanic: 73.2% 73.2% 2017 Hispanic: 55.6% 55.6% 2018 Hispanic: 68.6% 68.6% 2019 Hispanic: 64.6% 64.6% 2020 Hispanic: 68.2% 68.2% 2021 Hispanic: 65.6% 65.6% 2022 Hispanic: 65.3% 65.3% 2023 Hispanic: 60.2% 60.2% 2024 Hispanic: 61.9% 61.9% 2011 White: 68.6% 68.6% 2012 White: 64.5% 64.5% 2013 White: 69.9% 69.9% 2014 White: 74.9% 74.9% 2015 White: 73.6% 73.6% 2016 White: 79.3% 79.3% 2017 White: 77.4% 77.4% 2018 White: 77.7% 77.7% 2019 White: 78.8% 78.8% 2020 White: 75.9% 75.9% 2021 White: 74.2% 74.2% 2022 White: 73.4% 73.4% 2023 White: 77.9% 77.9% 2024 White: 78.5% 78.5%

Each group's completers over its own share of the entering cohort. Groups making up less than 2% of everyone this college graduated over the period are left off — their rates swing on a handful of students and read as noise.

IPEDS Graduation Rates survey, 2011–2024. Years a college didn't file leave a gap in the line.

Earnings by Major Category

Each major category's degree-weighted estimated median 5-year earnings at this college, expressed as a z-score against the national degree-weighted distribution for that category. 0 is the national average. The shaded band between +1.28 and −1.28 marks the central 80% of the national distribution (10th–90th percentile).

Academics

⇅ % Degrees Male/Female Intl Earnings ROI Employment
Health Sciences 57.6% 413 13% / 87% 1% $101,606 97 97%
Humanities & Social Sciences 11.3% 81 37% / 63% 1% $56,692 48 96%
Business & Economics 9.3% 67 64% / 36% 1% $76,756 83 98%
Education 8.1% 58 33% / 67% 0% $53,865 40 100%
Arts 6.0% 43 26% / 74% 5% $38,318 7 100%
Life & Natural Sciences 3.9% 28 36% / 64% 0% $43,862 13 94%
Professional 2.8% 20 40% / 60% 0% $56,272 47 92%
Computer Science 0.7% 5 80% / 20% 0% $90,267 93 —
Physical Sciences & Math 0.3% 2 50% / 50% 0% $75,377 82 —

Research

⇅ Research $ Rank Federal Industry $ PhDs Rank PhD students Postdocs
Physical Sciences & Math $0.0M #597 74% — — — — —
Computer Science $0 #525 — — — — — —
Engineering $0 #449 — — — — — —
Education — — — — 23 #185 — —
Health Sciences — — — — 8 #154 45 —
Agriculture & Food Science — — — — — — — —
Business & Economics — — — — — — — —
Humanities & Social Sciences — — — — — — — —
Life & Natural Sciences — — — — — — — —
Total $0.0M #644 74% — 31 #323 45 —

Expenditure and funding source: NSF HERD, FY2024. Degrees: IPEDS completions, 2023–24. Students and postdocs: NSF Survey of Graduate Students and Postdoctorates, fall 2024, which covers science, engineering and selected health fields only. An em dash means the source does not report the figure, which is not the same as zero.

Admissions

Uses Common App Yes
Acceptance Rate 79%
Yield (Unbound) 12%
Regular Decision Jan 1

Acceptance Rates

In-State Out-of-State International
Regular Decision 79% 79% 79%

Acceptance & Yield

Acceptance Yield
0% 25% 50% 75% 100% 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 2021 2022 2023 2024 2011 Acceptance: 63.4% 63.4% 2012 Acceptance: 73.7% 73.7% 2013 Acceptance: 72.7% 72.7% 2014 Acceptance: 75.4% 75.4% 2015 Acceptance: 75.5% 75.5% 2016 Acceptance: 76.9% 76.9% 2017 Acceptance: 76.0% 76.0% 2018 Acceptance: 81.0% 81.0% 2019 Acceptance: 78.0% 78.0% 2020 Acceptance: 74.1% 74.1% 2021 Acceptance: 79.3% 79.3% 2022 Acceptance: 76.6% 76.6% 2023 Acceptance: 75.6% 75.6% 2024 Acceptance: 81.7% 81.7% 2011 Yield: 31.0% 31.0% 2012 Yield: 26.8% 26.8% 2013 Yield: 21.3% 21.3% 2014 Yield: 19.9% 19.9% 2015 Yield: 20.1% 20.1% 2016 Yield: 18.2% 18.2% 2017 Yield: 16.1% 16.1% 2018 Yield: 16.7% 16.7% 2019 Yield: 16.1% 16.1% 2020 Yield: 14.6% 14.6% 2021 Yield: 13.4% 13.4% 2022 Yield: 15.5% 15.5% 2023 Yield: 13.9% 13.9% 2024 Yield: 12.0% 12.0%

Applicants, Admitted & Enrolled

Applicants Admitted Enrolled
0 2,500 5,000 7,500 10,000 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 2021 2022 2023 2024 2011 Applicants: 2,049 2,049 2012 Applicants: 2,304 2,304 2013 Applicants: 3,242 3,242 2014 Applicants: 3,277 3,277 2015 Applicants: 3,550 3,550 2016 Applicants: 4,030 4,030 2017 Applicants: 4,188 4,188 2018 Applicants: 4,427 4,427 2019 Applicants: 4,624 4,624 2020 Applicants: 5,043 5,043 2021 Applicants: 5,108 5,108 2022 Applicants: 5,412 5,412 2023 Applicants: 5,789 5,789 2024 Applicants: 6,330 6,330 2011 Admitted: 1,299 1,299 2012 Admitted: 1,698 1,698 2013 Admitted: 2,356 2,356 2014 Admitted: 2,471 2,471 2015 Admitted: 2,681 2,681 2016 Admitted: 3,100 3,100 2017 Admitted: 3,184 3,184 2018 Admitted: 3,587 3,587 2019 Admitted: 3,605 3,605 2020 Admitted: 3,739 3,739 2021 Admitted: 4,052 4,052 2022 Admitted: 4,147 4,147 2023 Admitted: 4,379 4,379 2024 Admitted: 5,174 5,174 2011 Enrolled: 403 403 2012 Enrolled: 455 455 2013 Enrolled: 501 501 2014 Enrolled: 492 492 2015 Enrolled: 539 539 2016 Enrolled: 565 565 2017 Enrolled: 514 514 2018 Enrolled: 598 598 2019 Enrolled: 581 581 2020 Enrolled: 545 545 2021 Enrolled: 541 541 2022 Enrolled: 642 642 2023 Enrolled: 608 608 2024 Enrolled: 621 621

IPEDS Admissions survey, 2011–2024. Years a college didn't file leave a gap in the line.

Standardized Tests

Test Policy optional

SAT Composite

25th 75th
800 1000 1200 1400 1600 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 2021 2022 2023 2024 2011 25th: 960 960 2012 25th: 970 970 2013 25th: 970 970 2014 25th: 980 980 2015 25th: 970 970 2016 25th: 980 980 2017 25th: 1060 1060 2018 25th: 1060 1060 2019 25th: 1050 1050 2020 25th: 1080 1080 2021 25th: 1110 1110 2022 25th: 1080 1080 2023 25th: 1080 1080 2024 25th: 1088 1088 2011 75th: 1160 1160 2012 75th: 1160 1160 2013 75th: 1140 1140 2014 75th: 1140 1140 2015 75th: 1150 1150 2016 75th: 1170 1170 2017 75th: 1210 1210 2018 75th: 1230 1230 2019 75th: 1240 1240 2020 75th: 1250 1250 2021 75th: 1320 1320 2022 75th: 1310 1310 2023 75th: 1310 1310 2024 75th: 1290 1290

SAT Math

25th 75th
400 500 600 700 800 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 2021 2022 2023 2024 2011 25th: 490 490 2012 25th: 490 490 2013 25th: 490 490 2014 25th: 490 490 2015 25th: 490 490 2016 25th: 490 490 2017 25th: 530 530 2018 25th: 530 530 2019 25th: 520 520 2020 25th: 540 540 2021 25th: 590 590 2022 25th: 530 530 2023 25th: 540 540 2024 25th: 548 548 2011 75th: 590 590 2012 75th: 590 590 2013 75th: 580 580 2014 75th: 580 580 2015 75th: 580 580 2016 75th: 590 590 2017 75th: 600 600 2018 75th: 610 610 2019 75th: 620 620 2020 75th: 630 630 2021 75th: 670 670 2022 75th: 650 650 2023 75th: 650 650 2024 75th: 650 650

SAT Reading & Writing

25th 75th
400 500 600 700 800 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 2021 2022 2023 2024 2011 25th: 470 470 2012 25th: 480 480 2013 25th: 480 480 2014 25th: 490 490 2015 25th: 480 480 2016 25th: 490 490 2017 25th: 530 530 2018 25th: 530 530 2019 25th: 530 530 2020 25th: 540 540 2021 25th: 520 520 2022 25th: 550 550 2023 25th: 540 540 2024 25th: 540 540 2011 75th: 570 570 2012 75th: 570 570 2013 75th: 560 560 2014 75th: 560 560 2015 75th: 570 570 2016 75th: 580 580 2017 75th: 610 610 2018 75th: 620 620 2019 75th: 620 620 2020 75th: 620 620 2021 75th: 650 650 2022 75th: 660 660 2023 75th: 660 660 2024 75th: 640 640

Submitting a Test Score

Submitted
0% 25% 50% 75% 100% 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 2021 2022 2023 2024 2011 Submitted: 100.0% 100.0% 2012 Submitted: 100.0% 100.0% 2013 Submitted: 100.0% 100.0% 2014 Submitted: 100.0% 100.0% 2015 Submitted: 100.0% 100.0% 2016 Submitted: 100.0% 100.0% 2017 Submitted: 100.0% 100.0% 2018 Submitted: 100.0% 100.0% 2019 Submitted: 100.0% 100.0% 2020 Submitted: 100.0% 100.0% 2021 Submitted: 26.0% 26.0% 2022 Submitted: 27.0% 27.0% 2023 Submitted: 17.0% 17.0% 2024 Submitted: 21.0% 21.0%

IPEDS Admissions survey, 2011–2024. Years a college didn't file leave a gap in the line. Test-score submission adds SAT and ACT submitters, capped at 100% — a student can send both.